Year-End Seminar Q&A Newsletter December 2025
Some YE FAQs
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Q: Will “No Tax on Overtime” show up in a new W-2 box?
A: For now, expect overtime to still be included in regular W-2 wage boxes, so you may need paystubs / payroll detail to support the deduction calculation.
Issue 1
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Q: If an employer doesn’t break out cash tips, how does the employee claim the “No Tax on Tips” deduction?
A: The guidance allows workers to compute the deductible amount without needing a separate employer accounting, but the taxpayer still needs records to back up the figure.
Issue 2
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Q: What’s the new 0.5% of AGI charitable rule, and is it separate from itemizing?
A: The YE seminar explained how the 0.5% of AGI concept fits into the new charitable limits framework and how it interacts with existing contribution limits.
Issue 4
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Q: Which AI tools are worth using in a tax office and what should you NOT upload?
A: The YE seminar gave a practical “which tool for what” breakdown (plus the obvious rule: don’t paste client SSNs/PII into public AI tools).
Issue 10
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Q: How does the car loan interest deduction work and who phases out?
A: The YE seminar summarized the cap and the income phaseout thresholds (single vs MFJ) and where it lands on the new flow.
Issue 11
All YE Q&As Focus Issues:
- Issue 1 – No Tax on Overtime
- Issue 2 – No Tax on Tips
- Issue 3 – Qualified Production Property
- Issue 4 – Charitable Donation Limits Under OBBBA
- Issue 5 – Retirement – Inherited IRS’s
- Issue 6 – Inherited Roth IRA Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) Requirements (as of 2025)
- Issue 7 – How do the RMD rules for an inherited Roth IRA differ between spousal and non-spousal beneficiaries under federal law?
- Issue 8 – Excess Business Losses
- Issue 9 – QBI
- Issue 10 – AI – Artificial Intelligence
- Issue 11 – Draft Instruction of Schedule 1-A - Comment
- Issue 12 – Refunds of 2025 Tax Year
- Issue 13 – Payment Issues for 2026 Tax Season – Can We Still Send in a Check as Payment?
- Issue 14 – Gambling Issues
- Issue 15 – IRS Installment Agreements
- Issue 16 – Kiddie Tax
- Issue 17 – Trump Accounts
- Issue 18 – State of Iowa Issues
- Issue 19 – Miscellaneous Issues

Issue 1 – No Tax on Overtime
Part 1 - Federal Tax Law Updates and Adjustments for Individuals and Businesses.
Q1: How will nontaxable OT be identified on W2?
For tax year 2025 Notice 2025-69 allows for alternatives to reporting overtime, as overtime is not required to be reported on the W-2 but maybe in Box 14. The employer may provide this information with another document provided to the client. The Form W-2 does have a place for overtime and tips on the 2026 Form W-2. Notice 2025-69 provides instructions for determining the amount of their deduction without a form like a W-2 or a 1099 their employer. It also provides transition relief for workers who receive tips in a specified service trade or business.
The guidance also includes examples of situations tip and overtime earners might experience.
Q2: What about people who get raises during the year for the overtime calculation? Example: Jan - Mar base pay is $15 per hour, receives a base pay raise in April - Sept to $20 per hour, then gets another base pay raise in Oct to $25 per hour. Receives overtime throughout the year...how do you calculate the "overtime premium pay"?
We stated the employer would have to separate the amounts. But if your division by 3 works and you are confident you have the correct figure after testing, then that figure should be adequate.
Q3: Could taxpayers use check stub as proof of overtime?
Not all check stubs will provide overtime amounts. But due to the transition relief employers may have added to the check stubs an additional feature that shows overtime. If not, the employee will need to contact the employer, or the employer may provide an additional statement of overtime received. Using the gross amount and dividing will provide the appropriate calculation.
Guidance for Individuals Who Received Tips or Overtime During Tax Year 2025 – Notice 2025-69
Following the previously-announced penalty relief for tax year 2025 for information reporting on tips and overtime, the Department of the Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service issued guidance for workers eligible to claim the deduction for tips and for overtime compensation for tax year 2025.
Notice 2025-69 clarifies for workers how to determine the amount of their deduction without receiving a separate accounting from their employer for cash tips or qualified overtime on information returns such as Form W-2 or Form 1099.
Those forms remain unchanged for the current tax year. The Notice also provides transition relief to workers who receive tips in the course of a specified service trade or business.
Tax professionals should review the notice carefully. It includes multiple examples illustrating various situations they may encounter for tipped taxpayers and taxpayers earning overtime compensation.
Q4: Are we sure that a $25k deduction is available for a MFJ return if only one of the two filers has overtime pay?
Under the new law (One Big Beautiful Bill Act, effective for tax years 2025–2028) the $25,000 deduction for “qualified overtime pay” can apply to a married-filing-jointly (MFJ) return, even if only one spouse earned the overtime.
Based on the form that is correct - but we do not have instructions yet. Look at Line 15 of Form Sch 1 -A.
Q5: Will the OT amount reported on W-2 be the entire OT paid or just the premium portion (half portion of time and half) of the OT paid?
This will depend on how the employer chooses to report. For 2025 the employer can use any reasonable method to report – this could include a separate statement, an amount in the Box 14 of the Form W-2 or it may be separately stated on a yearend paystub. There is no uniformity in 2025. Examples on how to figure are in Notice 2025-69.
Q6: Is the extra 1/2 time overtime eligible of the double time?
No, the "extra 1/2 time" of double time is generally not fully eligible for the federal overtime tax deduction. Double time pay is not entirely free from taxes; it is subject to the same taxes as regular pay, though a temporary federal income tax deduction for a portion of it is available.
Q7: It is my understanding that people who work in specified services trades are not eligible for the overtime deduction even if they meet the FLSA standards. Is this correct?
Your understanding is incorrect. The ineligibility for the new tax deduction on overtime pay is not linked to a person's trade, but rather their FLSA exemption status.
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) requires covered, non-exempt employees to be paid overtime (at least time and one-half their regular rate) for all hours worked over 40 in a workweek. The new temporary tax deduction (for tax years 2025-2028), introduced by the "One, Big, Beautiful Bill Act" (OBBBA), allows a deduction for the premium portion of this FLSA-required overtime pay.
The deduction is unavailable to employees who are exempt from FLSA overtime requirements (such as bona fide executive, administrative, or professional employees who meet specific salary and duties tests), because they do not receive FLSA-required overtime.
The worker must be an FLSA-covered, non-exempt employee.
That means FLSA requires the employer to pay overtime (usually >40 hours/week under federal law). If you’re exempt from FLSA overtime rules, you can’t claim the deduction.
The overtime must be the premium portion required by FLSA.
Only the amount in excess of your regular rate (e.g., the “half” in time-and-a-half) counts as “qualified overtime compensation.
State law, union contract, or employer policy overtime does not qualify unless it also meets the FLSA definition.
Note: Specified Service Trade or Business (SSTB) — This Applies Only to the Tip Deduction
There is a specified service trade or business exclusion — but that rule is tied to the tip’s deduction, not the overtime deduction. Under IRS rules, if a worker or their employer’s business is an SSTB (e.g., law, accounting, health services), then that worker generally cannot claim the tips deduction even if they meet the occupational requirements

Issue 2 – No Tax on Tips
The draft instructions also do not address the tip issue when the client does not receive the 1099 series forms for the self-employed. IRS currently has not addressed the issue.
Q1: On Tips for Sch. C Uber/Lyft Drivers - Can you please clarify what I believe I heard: If Total Compensation is $10K which includes $2K in Tips, Report $8K on Sch C Gross Receipts and $2K as Other Income and then take allowable below the line deduction?
That is correct.
Q2: If no tips received, then no treasury tipped occupation code on 2026 W-2?
That is correct.
Q3: Maybe I missed it, but will the 2025 W2s list qualified tips, etc.?
Yes, on the Form W-2 tips are listed in Box 7 as Social Security Tips. Employers may issue additional information if needed.
Q4: Is employment in marijuana sales qualify for no tax on tips?
No, they are not listed,
Remember sales of marijuana illegal federally.
Q5: How do the self-employed get a deduction for tips if they do not receive Form 1099-NEC? There is no line item on Schedule 1-A for this entry.
That is correct, no specific line item. We are waiting for the instructions to be issued concerning this issue. For now, self-employed need to track the tips as they do other income. For now, what we are recommending is place gross income as usual and place tips as other income. No need to file Form 4137 as tips reported this way will be paying social security and Medicare tax as it is included in income. The tip income would go on Schedule 1-A as a deduction.
Keep in mind if the business has a loss overall – there is no tip deduction as the deduction is limited.
Q6: So, going forward do hairstylists and similar self-employed people need to try and exclusively be paid by E-payments/cards because cash tips would not allow them a deduction in 2026 and after?
Many currently do take payment via E-Payments. But cash tips are allowed a deduction from 2024 – 2028 and it will be the responsibility of the business to track them separately to take the tip credit.
Q7: If tips are reported on the 2025 W2, do they still need a separate statement to claim the tips deduction?
Depends, do the clients records tie to the amount reported to the employer? Is there any services charges in the employees’ records? Remember services charges do not apply.
Remember allocated tips are not included in Box 1 and must pay tax and FICA.
Generally, you will be able to take the deduction based on what is in W-2 - if you feel it is questionable I would get a statement. We are going to cover more on tips in the Quarterly update on the 16th. Also do not forget do they fall into a category listed that is eligible for the deduction?
Q8: Do we have to provide a tip code for the 2025 tax return?
No, but we do need to verify that it is a qualifying tip under one of the codes and thus deductible.
Q9: How about strippers? Do tips count as not taxes?
May qualify under 205 Dancers (Club Dancer, or dance artist), but, any tips received for illegal activities, no.
See Session Handout - Occupations That Customarily and Regularly Received Tips on or Before December 31, 2024

Issue 3 – Qualified Production Property
Part 2 - Form 706, Portability, and Retirement Planning.
Q1: Would a Locker meet that criteria?
We will have to await more detailed guidance. I would say a strong maybe. Review Section 70307 of OB3.
Q2: On QPP is it that 100% bonus can be taken in 2025 if the construction was started after 1/19/25 and completed in 2025?
OBBBA re-instates 100% bonus depreciation for “qualified property” acquired and placed in service after January 19, 2025.
For QPP (the building/real-property portion used for manufacturing/production): the rules require that construction begins after January 19, 2025 (and before Jan 1, 2029) and that the property is placed in service by December 31, 2030 (or before Jan 1, 2031 in many summaries) for QPP treatment.
Once those tests are satisfied, you may be allowed to immediately write off — in the year placed in service — the cost of the qualifying production-use portion of the building, rather than depreciating over 39 years as with normal commercial real estate.
So: Can you take 100% bonus in 2025 if construction started after 1/19/25 and building is completed (placed in service) in 2025?
Yes — but only if both conditions are satisfied (construction start after Jan 19, 2025, AND placed in service in 2025).

Issue 4 – Charitable Donation Limits Under OBBBA
Q1: On the .5% Charitable donation floor - is there an AGI limit to this? Or does this impact every taxpayer?
Starting in 2026, for individuals who itemize deductions, charitable contributions are deductible only to the extent that their total annual giving exceeds 0.5% of their adjusted gross income (AGI).
In simple terms: compute 0.5% of your AGI → that amount is the “floor.” Any charitable giving up to that floor provides no tax deduction.
Only contributions above that floor are deductible (subject to other deduction limits. It is not exactly a phase out. IT WILL APPLY TO ALL ITEMIZERS - NOT ONLY HIGH INCOME. The 0.5% floor applies broadly — any itemizing individual taxpayer sees it.
There’s no separate “AGI threshold cutoff” beyond that; rather, the floor amount scales with your AGI. So yes — it impacts every itemizing taxpayer, though how much it matters depends on how large donations are relative to income.
Examples : Step 1 - 0.5% Charitable Floor
| Examples |
AGI |
Charitable Giving |
0.5% Floor |
Deductible Amount |
Result |
| 1. Middle-income, modest giving |
$80,000 |
$400 |
$400 |
$0 |
Giving equals the floor — no charitable deduction. |
| 2. Higher-income, strong giving |
$200,000 |
$8,000 |
$1,000 |
$7,000 |
Most of the deduction is preserved because giving is well above the floor. |
| 3. Highest-income, small giving |
$1,000,000 |
$5,000 |
$5,000 |
$0 |
No deduction — gifts do not exceed the floor. |

Issue 5 – Retirement – Inherited IRA’s
Q1: Can the beneficiary take a partial amount from an inherited Roth and still have the balance have a stepped-up basis when withdrawn at the end of ten years?
No, the beneficiary generally cannot take partial amounts and get a stepped-up basis on the remaining balance of an inherited Roth IRA; Roth IRAs don't get a step-up in basis like stocks do, and non-spouse beneficiaries must typically empty the account within 10 years, taking distributions that are tax-free if the 5-year rule is met and the owner was over 59.5.
You can take partial withdrawals from an inherited Roth and must finish distributions by the 10th year, but the key is that the earnings aren't taxed if qualified, and there's no "step-up" for the account's value, just tax-free growth on qualified withdrawals.
Key points for Inherited Roth IRAs (Non-Spouse Beneficiary)
- 10-Year Rule - You must withdraw the entire balance by the end of the 10th year after the original owner's death.
- Partial Withdraws - Yes, you can take smaller, partial withdrawals over the 10 years, or a lump sum, but the whole thing must be gone by year 10.
- Taxation - Qualified withdrawals (earnings) are tax-free, but if the account is less than 5 years old, earnings might be taxed.
- No-Step Up - Retirement accounts, including Roths, do not receive a "step-up in basis" like stocks do at death; the original contributions were already taxed, and earnings grow tax-free.
What does this means for your question
- You can take a partial amount (e.g., some money now).
- The remaining balance does not get a new stepped-up basis for its future value.
- You just continue withdrawing from the remaining balance, tax-free (if qualified), until the account is empty by the 10-year mark.
Q2: The issue AJ brought up about inheriting a Roth IRA with 1,000 shares of Coca Cola. Did I hear him correctly that the beneficiary can leave the Roth IRA intact for 10 years and not take a distribution until the tenth year?
Yes, leave for 10 years
Q3: The beneficiary does not have to create his own inherited Roth IRA and transfer the shares to his inherited Roth IRA?
No, this procedure is not valid with new regulations
Q4: Does this apply to all inherited Roth accounts? When the Roth account is distributed to a beneficiary, it does not get transferred to an inherited Roth?
Correct, gets transferred into regular Brokerage Account
Q5: In effect, are there no inherited Roth IRA accounts?
Yes, with the new Regulations
Q6: Once the transfer is made there are no inherited ROTH account when going forward after the transfer?
Yes, there are inherited Roth IRAs, but rules changed with the SECURE Act (2020), meaning most non-spouse beneficiaries must empty the account within 10 years (the "10-Year Rule"), while spouses have more options, like treating it as their own, but still face conditions for tax-free earnings. It's not a simple transfer; it's a new account with specific rules for distributions, but it retains the Roth tax advantages (tax-free earnings/distributions) if rules are followed, especially the 5-year rule for qualified withdrawals.
Key Points About Inherited Roth IRAs
- It's a Real Thing: You do open an "inherited Roth IRA" (sometimes called a "beneficiary Roth IRA").
- Spousal Beneficiaries Have More Flexibility: A surviving spouse can roll it into their own IRA or treat it as their own, potentially avoiding RMDs and keeping the account for life, but earnings might be taxed until age 59.5 and the 5-year rule is met.
- Non-Spouse Beneficiaries Face the 10-Year Rule: Most non-spouses must withdraw the entire balance by the end of the 10th year after the original owner's death, regardless of age.
- (EDBs): A few exceptions (minor children, disabled/chronically ill, or those <10 yrs younger) can "stretch" distributions over their lifetime, similar to old rules, but most heirs can't.
- Tax-Free Withdrawals: Withdrawals are tax-free if they are contributions or if they are earnings and the account (original owner's plus inherited) met the 5-year rule.
In Summary: An inherited Roth is not just a pass-through; it becomes a new account with distinct rules. The major shift is the 10-Year Rule for most, replacing the old "stretch" provision.
Q7: For ROTH IRA’s is the cliff at year 10 still available?
Yes, the 10-year "cliff" rule is still in effect for most non-spouse beneficiaries who inherit a Roth IRA. This rule, established by the 2019 SECURE Act and maintained by SECURE 2.0, generally requires the entire account balance to be distributed by December 31st of the tenth year following the original owner's death.
How the 10-Year Rule Works for Inherited Roth IRAs
For inherited Roth IRAs, the rule is relatively simple because original Roth IRA owners are not required to take minimum distributions during their lifetime.
- No annual RMDs: Beneficiaries are generally not required to take annual distributions in years one through nine./li>
- Full distribution by year 10: The entire account balance must be withdrawn by the end of the 10th year after the original owner's death.
- Tax-free distributions: Qualified distributions from an inherited Roth IRA are tax-free, provided the original account met the five-year holding period.
This provides flexibility, allowing the beneficiary to keep the funds growing tax-free for the full decade and withdraw the entire amount as a lump sum at the end of the 10-year period, or take withdrawals at any point during that time.
Exceptions to the 10-Year Rule
Certain individuals, known as "eligible designated beneficiaries", are exempt from the 10-year rule and can still "stretch" the distributions over their own life expectancy, much like under the old rules.
These exceptions include:
- A surviving spouse (who also has the option to roll the funds into their own Roth IRA).
- A minor child of the original account owner (the 10-year rule applies once they reach the age of majority, generally age 21).
- A chronically ill or disabled individual.
- Someone not more than 10 years younger than the original account owner.
For all other non-spouse beneficiaries (such as adult children or grandchildren), the 10-year limit applies. It is recommended to consult with a tax professional for guidance on specific situations and to help determine the best withdrawal strategy. More information can be found in .
Q8: Basics always says to take RMD on beneficiary ROTH IRA’S, but other tax seminars say that since the original Roth IRA owner would never be required to take an RMD, then the beneficiary would never be required to take a RMD. But Basics says the beneficiary ROTH IRA MUST take an RMD? This beneficiary ROTH IRA RMD requirement is unclear, and there is conflicting interpretation.
Basics & Beyond has not told its participants that non-eligible designated beneficiaries of inherited ROTH IRA are required to take RMD (when the owner of the ROTH IRA has reached their Required Beginning Date). The final regulations make it clear that an owner of a ROTH IRA is treated as never having reached their Required Beginning Date.
What makes this whole area, so complex is that the general rules do mandate RMD distribution rules when anyone receives an inherited retirement plan account asset (including a ROTH IRA). In fact, the final regulation go into detail on how a beneficiary of a ROTH IRA can make an election to take RMDs during the 10-year payout period. I can understand how someone would be confused and argue that ROTH IRAs accounts are subject to RMD requirements when you have this kind discussion in the regulations. It is quite apparent that the Treasury Department would like individuals to accelerate the distribution of these assets (prior to the 10-year payout period) so that any future earnings on these assets would now be subject to current income tax.

Issue 6 – Inherited Roth IRA Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) Requirements (as of 2025)
Q1: General RMD Rules for Inherited Roth IRAs
IRA owners are not required to take RMDs during their lifetime. However, after the Roth IRA owner’s death, beneficiaries are subject to RMD rules, even though distributions from Roth IRAs are generally tax-free if the account has been open for at least five years [2].
Q2: Who Is Subject to RMDs and When
All beneficiaries of inherited Roth IRAs must follow RMD rules. The specific requirements depend on:
- The relationship of the beneficiary to the decedent (spouse, non-spouse, entity, etc.)
- Whether the decedent died before or after January 1, 2020 (SECURE Act effective date)
- Whether the beneficiary is an "eligible designated beneficiary" (EDB) or not [2].
A. If the Roth IRA Owner Died Before 2020
Spousal Beneficiary: May treat the Roth IRA as their own, roll it over, or remain a beneficiary and take distributions over their own life expectancy or under the 5-year rule.
Non-Spouse Beneficiary: May take distributions over their own life expectancy (if begun by December 31 of the year following death) or use the 5-year rule (account emptied by December 31 of the fifth year after death) [2].
B. If the Roth IRA Owner Died in 2020 or Later (SECURE Act and SECURE 2.0)
Spousal Beneficiary: Has several options:
- Treat the inherited Roth IRA as their own (no RMDs required during their lifetime).
- Remain a beneficiary and delay distributions until the decedent would have reached age 73, then take RMDs over their own life expectancy.
- Use the 10-year rule (account must be emptied by December 31 of the 10th year after death).
- Roll over the account into their own Roth IRA [2].
Eligible Designated Beneficiary (EDB): Includes the decedent’s spouse, minor child, disabled or chronically ill individual, or an individual not more than 10 years younger than the decedent.
- May take distributions over their own life expectancy (the "stretch" option).
- May also elect the 10-year rule if the owner died before their required beginning date [2].
Non-Eligible Designated Beneficiary (e.g., adult child, grandchild):
- Must use the 10-year rule: the entire inherited Roth IRA must be distributed by December 31 of the 10th year following the year of the owner’s death. No annual RMDs are required within the 10 years, but the account must be fully distributed by the end of the 10th year [2].
Non-Individual Beneficiary (e.g., estate, charity, some trusts):
- If the owner died before their required beginning date, the 5-year rule applies (account must be emptied by December 31 of the fifth year after death) [2].
Q3: Special Rules and Definitions
- Required Beginning Date (RBD): For Roth IRAs, there is no RBD for the owner, but for inherited Roth IRAs, the RBD is relevant for determining which rules apply to non-Roth accounts and for certain EDBs [2].
- Life Expectancy Table: If the life expectancy method is available, beneficiaries use the Single Life Expectancy Table (Table I in IRS Pub. 590-B) to calculate annual RMDs [4].
- Multiple Beneficiaries: If there are multiple beneficiaries, separate accounts must be established by December 31 of the year following the year of death for each beneficiary to use their own life expectancy. Otherwise, the RMDs are based on the oldest beneficiary’s life expectancy [4].
- Successor Beneficiaries: If an EDB dies before the account is fully distributed, the successor beneficiary must distribute the remaining balance within 10 years of the EDB’s death [2].
Q4: Taxation of Distributions
- Distributions from an inherited Roth IRA are generally tax-free if the account has been open for at least five years. If the account is less than five years old, earnings may be taxable [2].
Q5: Penalties for Missed RMDs
- Excise Tax: If a beneficiary fails to take an RMD, a 25% excise tax (reduced to 10% if corrected in a timely manner) applies to the amount not distributed [3].
- Relief: The IRS may waive the penalty if the shortfall was due to reasonable error and steps are being taken to remedy it. File Form 5329 and a letter of explanation to request a waiver [3].
Q6: Summary Table of Inherited Roth IRA RMD Rules (2025)
| Beneficiary Type |
RMD Option(s) |
10-Year Rule |
Life Expectancy |
5-Year Rule |
Special Notes |
| Spouse |
Treat as own, life expectancy, 10-year rule, or rollover |
Yes |
Yes |
No |
No RMDs if treated as own |
| Eligible Designated Beneficiary |
Life expectancy or 10-year rule (if owner died before RBD) |
Yes |
Yes |
No |
EDBs: spouse, minor child, disabled, chronically ill, or not >10 years younger |
| Non-Eligible Designated Beneficiary |
10-year rule only |
Yes |
No |
No |
Must empty by end of 10th year |
| Non-Individual (Estate, Charity, Trust) |
5-year rule (if owner died before RBD) |
No |
No |
Yes |
Must empty by end of 5th year |
Q7. References to Primary Sources
- IRC § 401(a)(9)(H): 10-year rule for most non-spouse beneficiaries [5].
- IRC § 401(a)(9)(E): Eligible designated beneficiary definition [5].
- Publication 590-B (2024): Detailed RMD rules, life expectancy tables, and examples [4].
- IRS Retirement Topics – Beneficiary: Summary of beneficiary options and RMD rules [2].
- IRS RMD FAQs: Penalties and calculation details [3].
In summary:
- Inherited Roth IRAs are subject to RMD rules for beneficiaries, even though the original owner was not.
- Most non-spouse beneficiaries must empty the account within 10 years of the owner’s death (10-year rule).
- Spouses and eligible designated beneficiaries may use the life expectancy method or the 10-year rule.
- Distributions are generally tax-free if the Roth IRA has been open for at least five years.
- Penalties apply for missed RMDs, but relief may be available for reasonable error [4].
If you have a specific beneficiary situation (e.g., trust, minor child, disabled beneficiary), please provide more details for tailored guidance.
Cited sources:
Additional relevant sources:

Issue 7 – How do the RMD rules for an inherited Roth IRA differ between spousal and non-spousal beneficiaries under federal law?
The Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) rules for inherited Roth IRAs differ significantly between spousal and non-spousal beneficiaries, especially following the changes introduced by the SECURE Act. Below is a comprehensive explanation of the options and requirements for each beneficiary type, including the impact of the SECURE Act and relevant exceptions.
Q1: General Principles for Inherited Roth IRAs
- Roth IRAs are not subject to RMDs during the original owner's lifetime.
- After the Roth IRA owner's death, beneficiaries are subject to RMD rules, which depend on their relationship to the decedent and the date of death (before or after 2020, due to the SECURE Act) [2]. Note – this is the general rule regarding distribution from inherited (the death of the own).
Q2: Spousal Beneficiaries
- Options for Spousal Beneficiaries
A surviving spouse who inherits a Roth IRA has the most flexibility. The spouse may:
- Treat the Inherited Roth IRA as Their Own
- The spouse can elect to treat the inherited Roth IRA as their own by designating themselves as the account owner or by rolling it over into their own Roth IRA.
- This option is available only if the spouse is the sole beneficiary and has an unlimited right to withdraw amounts from the IRA [2].
- Once treated as their own, the spouse is not subject to RMDs during their lifetime.
- Treat the Account as an Inherited IRA
- The spouse can keep the account as an inherited IRA, in which case the RMD rules for beneficiaries apply.
- The spouse can delay distributions until the decedent would have reached age 73 (or 72/70½, depending on the decedent’s date of birth) [2].
- After that, the spouse can take distributions over their own life expectancy.
- Rollover to Their Own Roth IRA
- The spouse can roll over the inherited Roth IRA into their own Roth IRA, which is treated the same as option 1 above [3].
- RMD Requirements for Spousal Beneficiaries
- If Treated as Own: No RMDs are required during the spouse’s lifetime.
- If Treated as Inherited:
- The spouse may delay distributions until the decedent would have reached age 73.
- After that, RMDs are calculated using the spouse’s life expectancy, recalculated each year [2].
- If the spouse dies before RMDs begin, the spouse’s beneficiaries are treated as if they were the original beneficiaries of the IRA owner [2].
- Impact of the SECURE Act
- The SECURE Act did not significantly change the options for spousal beneficiaries. Spouses retain the ability to treat the IRA as their own or as an inherited IRA, with the associated RMD rules [5].
Q3: Non-Spousal Beneficiaries
- Types of Non-Spousal Beneficiaries
- Eligible Designated Beneficiaries (EDBs): Includes minor children of the decedent, disabled or chronically ill individuals, and individuals not more than 10 years younger than the decedent.
- Designated Beneficiaries (DBs): Any individual named as a beneficiary who is not an EDB.
- Non-Designated Beneficiaries: Estates, charities, or certain trusts.
- RMD Rules for Non-Spousal Beneficiaries (Post-SECURE Act, Deaths in 2020 or later)
- Eligible Designated Beneficiaries (EDBs)
- May take distributions over their own life expectancy (the "stretch" option).
- Upon the EDB’s death, the successor beneficiary must withdraw the remaining balance within 10 years [5].
- Must withdraw the entire account by the end of the 10th year following the year of the account owner’s death (the "10-year rule").
- Designated Beneficiaries (Not EDBs)
- No annual RMDs are required during the 10-year period, but the account must be fully distributed by the end of the 10th year [2].
- Non-Designated Beneficiaries
- If the account owner died before their required beginning date, the account must be distributed within 5 years.
- If the account owner died after their required beginning date, distributions may be made over the remaining life expectancy of the decedent [2].
- Special Rules for Minor Children
- Minor children of the decedent (not grandchildren) are EDBs and may use the life expectancy method until they reach the age of majority (age 21 under the final regulations).
- After reaching majority, the 10-year rule applies [5].
- Impact of the SECURE Act
- The SECURE Act eliminated the "stretch IRA" for most non-spousal beneficiaries, replacing it with the 10-year rule for designated beneficiaries who are not EDBs [5].
- EDBs retain the ability to stretch distributions over their life expectancy.
Q4: Inherited Roth IRA: Taxation of Distributions
- Qualified Distributions: If the Roth IRA has been open for at least 5 years, distributions (including earnings) are tax-free to the beneficiary.
- Non-Qualified Distributions: If the Roth IRA has not met the 5-year holding period, earnings may be taxable, but contributions are always tax-free [2].
Q5: Summary Table: Spousal vs. Non-Spousal Beneficiaries
| Option/Requirement |
Spousal Beneficiary |
Non-Spousal Beneficiary (EDB) |
Non-Spousal Beneficiary (Not EDB) |
| Treat as own Roth IRA |
Yes |
No |
No |
| Rollover to own Roth IRA |
Yes |
No |
No |
| RMDs required during spouse’s life |
No (if treated as own) |
Yes (life expectancy method) |
No annual RMDs, but 10-year rule |
| 10-year rule applies |
Only if spouse elects it as beneficiary |
Only after EDB’s death or majority |
Yes |
| Life expectancy stretch |
Yes (if treated as inherited, not own) |
Yes |
No |
| Taxation of distributions |
Tax-free if qualified |
Tax-free if qualified |
Tax-free if qualified |
Q6: Key References
- Internal Revenue Code § 401(a)(9), § 408(a)(6), § 408A(c)(5)
- SECURE Act (P.L. 116-94)
- IRS Publication 590-B (2024) [2]
- IRS Notice 2022-53 (transition relief for missed RMDs under the 10-year rule) [4]
- Final Regulations under the SECURE Act [5]
Q7: Practical Notes
- Spouses should carefully consider whether to treat the inherited Roth IRA as their own or as an inherited IRA, as this affects the timing of RMDs and the ability to name new beneficiaries.
- Non-spousal beneficiaries must be aware of the 10-year rule and plan distributions accordingly to avoid large taxable distributions in the final year if the Roth IRA is not qualified.
- All beneficiaries should ensure that the Roth IRA has met the 5-year holding period to maximize tax-free treatment of distributions [2].
In summary:
- Spousal beneficiaries have the option to treat the inherited Roth IRA as their own (no RMDs required) or as an inherited IRA (with RMDs based on their life expectancy or the 10-year rule).
- Non-spousal beneficiaries who are EDBs may use the life expectancy method; all others must use the 10-year rule.
- The SECURE Act significantly limited the "stretch" option for most non-spousal beneficiaries, but not for spouses or EDBs.
Cited sources:
Additional relevant sources:
Q8: If a taxpayer turns 73 on April 16, 2026, is the required beginning date 4/1/2026 or 4/1/2027?
The Required Beginning Date is 4/1/27, however you would have to take 2 distributions in 2027.
Q9: Define “Certain Trusts” in the table of beneficiaries. What kind of trusts?
In IRA beneficiary tables, “Certain Trusts” is shorthand for trusts that qualify as “designated beneficiaries” (or eligible designated beneficiaries) under the IRS “see-through” trust rules. Not all trusts qualify.
Here is what that means in practical terms.
What are “Certain Trusts”?
They are trusts that meet the IRS requirements to be treated as if the underlying beneficiaries (the people) are the IRA beneficiaries, rather than the trust itself.
These are commonly called look-through or see-through trusts.
IRS requirements for a qualifying (“see-through”) trust
All four of the following must be met:
- The trust is valid under state law.
- The trust is irrevocable (or becomes irrevocable at death)
- All beneficiaries are identifiable individuals.
- No charities, estates, or non-persons as beneficiaries
- Trust documentation is provided to the IRA custodian by October 31 of the year following death.
If any one of these fails → the trust is not a “certain trust.”
Types of “Certain Trusts” you will see in beneficiary tables:
- Conduit Trusts
- All IRA distributions must immediately pass out to the beneficiary
- No accumulation inside the trust
- Stretch period (or 10-year rule) is based on the conduit beneficiary
- Most common historically
→ Under SECURE Act rules, many conduit trusts now force full payout by year 10 unless the beneficiary is an EDB.
- Accumulation Trusts
- Special EDB Trusts (Post-SECURE)
These are still “certain trusts,” but with enhanced treatment:
- Trusts for:
- Disabled beneficiaries
- Chronically ill beneficiaries
→ May qualify for lifetime stretch, even after SECURE.
→ Must meet additional statutory requirements.
Trusts that are NOT “Certain Trusts”
These are treated as non-designated beneficiaries:
- Estate-as-beneficiary
- Charitable trusts (e.g., CRUTs)
- Trusts with charities or estates as remainder beneficiaries
- Trusts failing documentation or identifiability rules
→ These typically follow the 5-year rule or ghost-life expectancy (if owner died after RBD).
Why beneficiary tables use the term “Certain Trusts”?
Because the payout rule depends on whether the trust qualifies:
| Trust Type |
IRS Status |
Distribution Rule |
| Conduit / Accumulation (qualifying) |
Designated Beneficiary |
10-year or EDB rules |
| Disabled / Chronically ill trust |
Eligible DB |
Lifetime stretch |
| Estate / non-qualifying trust |
Non-Designated |
5-year or ghost rule |
→ When a beneficiary table says, “Certain Trusts”, it means:
Only trusts that qualify as IRS “see-through” trusts—typically conduit, accumulation, or properly drafted EDB trusts—not estates or charitable trusts.
Q10: Related to retirement assets - in the case where a taxpayer and spouse pass away and all 401K assets for both go into irrevocable trusts - do the 5/10 years apply to distribution?
Trusts required to use the 5-Year Rule for Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) are generally Non-Designated Beneficiary (NDB) Trusts, including non-qualifying trusts or those failing "see-through" criteria, where the owner died before their Required Beginning Date (RBD), forcing all funds out by the 5th year after death; also, certain multi-beneficiary trusts or accumulation trusts can default to this rule if not set up perfectly to pass RMDs to Eligible Designated Beneficiaries (EDB) like spouses.
I would focus on the "see through" criteria
See-Through Trust Criteria
→ The trust must satisfy all of the following conditions to be treated as a see-through trust:
- Valid Under State Law: The trust must be a valid legal entity under the state law where it was established.
- Irrevocable: The trust must be irrevocable, or by its terms become irrevocable, upon the death of the original retirement account owner.
- Identifiable Beneficiaries: The underlying beneficiaries of the trust must be individuals;5 could apply and 10 could apply.
They must determine whether they meet the see through criteria apply and thus 10 years.
Q11: Spouse taking pre-Secure Act RMD from Father IRA, spouse deceased, does TP husband, continue her RMD or revert to 10 year rule?
The individual (TP husband) who is a successor beneficiary must continue the distribution schedule that applied to his deceased spouse, which was the pre-SECURE Act life expectancy method (stretch IRA), not the 10-year rule.
The determining factor for the rules is the date of the original IRA owner's (the father's) death. The SECURE Act rules, including the 10-year payout, generally apply to IRAs inherited from owners who died on or after January 1, 2020. Because the spouse inherited the IRA under the pre-SECURE Act rules, those rules continue to govern the account for her beneficiary (her husband).
Key Rules for the Taxpayer Husband (Successor Beneficiary):
Continue RMDs: The husband must continue to take annual Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) based on the deceased spouse's (the first beneficiary's) remaining life expectancy, using the IRS Single Life Expectancy table.
- No New 10-Year Period: The husband does not get a new 10-year payout period. He must continue the RMD schedule already in place for his late spouse.
- Account Depletion: The account must be fully distributed over the original beneficiary's (the spouse's) remaining life expectancy period.
It is highly recommended that the TP husband consults with a tax advisor or financial professional to ensure the RMDs are calculated correctly and taken in a timely manner to avoid penalties. The IRS provides detailed guidance in .
Q12: If a non-designated beneficiary inherits an IRA before the owner is taking RMD's but would have turned 73 a few years later (so say they died at age 68) does the beneficiary have to start taking RMD's when the owner would have (and who in the world is keeping track of this)?
Yes - but only if the 10-year rule applies, and this is exactly the part that is tripping everyone up. And no, the IRS is not really “keeping track” for you; the burden is on the beneficiary (and their advisor/custodian).
From your fact pattern and how this issue usually comes up, I’m going to assume you mean a non-eligible designated beneficiary (NEDB) — e.g.:
- Adult child
- Grandchild
- Most trusts that don’t qualify as see-through EDB trusts
(If this were a true non-designated beneficiary like an estate or non-qualifying trust, different rules apply.)
Owner dies before their Required Beginning Date (RBD)
Facts:
- Owner dies at age 68
- They had not yet started RMDs
- Under current law, their RBD would have been age 73
This matters a lot.
What rule applies to the beneficiary?
Because the beneficiary is a non-eligible designated beneficiary, the 10-year rule applies.
But here’s the key point:
Under SECURE Act 2.0 / IRS final regs:
If the IRA owner dies before their RBD,
there are NO annual RMDs during the 10-year period.
✔ The beneficiary can wait
✔ No “phantom” RMD starting at age 73
✔ Entire account just has to be emptied by December 31 of Year 10
So, does the beneficiary have to start RMDs when the owner would have turned 73?
No.
That requirement only applies if the owner died on or after their RBD.
| Owner dies… |
Beneficiary must take annual RMDs? |
| Before RBD (age 73) |
❌ No |
| On/after RBD |
✅ Yes (years 1–9, plus full payout by year 10) |
In your example:
- Owner dies at 68 → before RBD.
- Beneficiary has maximum flexibility.
- Can take nothing for 9 years and drain it in Year.
Who in the world is keeping track of this?”
Practically speaking:
- The IRS assumes you are.
- Custodians often:
- Mis-code the account.
- Give generic RMD notices.
- Or give no notice at all.
The IRS will catch mistakes later through:
- Form 5498 (account value)
- Form 1099-R (distributions)
- Automated matching
What if the owner had died at, say, 75 instead?
Just for contrast:
- Owner died after RBD
- Beneficiary must:
- Take annual “life expectancy” RMDs in years 1–9
- Empty the account by end of year 10
This is the rule people mistakenly apply to all inherited IRAs — but it does not apply to your scenario.
Bottom line
For your example (death at age 68):
- ❌ Beneficiary does not start RMDs at the owner’s hypothetical age 73
- ✅ No annual RMDs required
- ✅ Entire IRA must be distributed by 12/31 of the 10th year
- ⚠️ The beneficiary is responsible for compliance — not the custodian

Issue 8 – Excess Business Losses
Part 3 - QBI Deduction, Business Strategies, and Depreciation Updates.
Q1: On the excess business loss limitation, do you combine all businesses to determine if there is a limitation? Or is it a business-by-business calculation? I see on form 461 you combine all businesses.
They are combined § 461(l)(3)(A) is the source, or the Form itself. Look at Rev. Proc-2019-158 when rental real estate qualifies as a trade or business and would be allowed for QBI.

Issue 9 – QBI
Q1: QBI phaseout, the slide is misleading. The range expanded from 50k to 75k, phase out is not at 75k-important to note the difference.
Thank you, I hope this answer clarifies the issue.
QBI Deduction Income Thresholds (MFJ)
For married couples filing jointly, the relevant taxable income ranges for the QBI deduction are:
Tax Year Phase-out Begins Below This Amount (Full Deduction for most below this) Phase-out Complete Above This Amount (for SSTBs)
2024 $383,900 - $483,900
2025 $394,600 - $494,600
How the Phase-Out Works
Below the Lower Threshold (e.g., $394,600 for 2025):
You can generally claim the full 20% QBI deduction regardless of your business type (SSTB or non-SSTB).
Within the Phase-Out Range:
SSTBs: The deduction is gradually limited and eventually eliminated entirely once your income exceeds the upper threshold.
Non-SSTBs: The deduction amount may be limited based on the W-2 wages paid by the business and the unadjusted basis of qualified property (UBIA).
Above the Upper Threshold (e.g., $494,600 for 2025):
SSTBs: No QBI deduction is allowed.
Non-SSTBs: The deduction is strictly limited to the W-2 wage and property basis calculation (the greater of 50% of W-2 wages, or 25% of W-2 wage, or 25% of W-2 wages plus 2.5% of qualified property).

Issue 10 – AI – Artificial Intelligence
Part 4 - AI & Automation Best Practices.
Q1: What is the best program for AI?
For Taxes? Gemini - for images. ChatGPT for every day. Grok for research. There are many races for the finish line.
Q2: What is the cost of BLUE J?
$1,198 per year.
Q3: Do you foresee in the near future AI will be able to take scan forms (W-2, 1099 etc.) and fill out a Form 1040?
Yes, without a doubt.

Issue 11 – Draft Instruction of Schedule 1-A - Comment
Part 5 - Preparing for the 2026 Filing Season: Using Schedule 1-A.
Draft instructions for Schedule 1-A have been posted on the IRS Draft Forms website. They are included in the Form 1040 instructions and the update states December 8, 2025.
The instructions provide very little information other than what we have already shared. The instructions do not address Car Loan Interest “Mixed Use” both business and personal, though the form has a column on Line 22, implying “mixed use” is available. The instructions do not address this issue nor have IRS clarified that it is an option.
The IRS Fact Sheet on Car Loan Interest States:
- New deduction: Effective for 2025 through 2028, individuals may deduct interest paid on a loan used to purchase a qualified vehicle, provided the vehicle is purchased for personal use and meets other eligibility criteria. (Lease payments do not qualify.)
- Maximum annual deduction is $10,000.
- Deduction phases out for taxpayers with modified adjusted gross income over $100,000 ($200,000 for joint filers).
- Qualified interest: In order to qualify for the deduction, the interest must be paid on a loan that is:
- originated after December 31, 2024,
- used to purchase a vehicle, the original use of which starts with the taxpayer (used vehicles do not qualify),
- for a personal use vehicle (not for business or commercial use) and
- secured by a lien on the vehicle.
If a qualifying vehicle loan is later refinanced, interest paid on the refinanced amount is generally eligible for the deduction.
- Qualified vehicle: A qualified vehicle is a car, minivan, van, SUV, pick-up truck or motorcycle, with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 14,000 pounds, and that has undergone final assembly in the United States.
- Final assembly in the United States: The location of final assembly will be listed on the vehicle information label attached to each vehicle on a dealer's premises. Alternatively, taxpayers may rely on the vehicle’s plant of manufacture as reported in the vehicle identification number (VIN) to determine whether a vehicle has undergone final assembly in the United States.
- The VIN Decoder website for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) provides plant of manufacture information. Taxpayers can follow the instructions on that website to determine if the vehicle’s plant of manufacture was located in the United States.
- Taxpayer eligibility: Deduction is available for both itemizing and non-itemizing taxpayers.
- The taxpayer must include the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) of the qualified vehicle on the tax return for any year in which the deduction is claimed.
- Reporting: Lenders or other recipients of qualified interest must file information returns with the IRS and furnish statements to taxpayers showing the total amount of interest received during the taxable year.
- Guidance: The IRS will provide transition relief for tax year 2025 for interest recipients subject to the new reporting requirements.

Issue 12 – Refunds of 2025 Tax Year
Q1: Direct Deposit and Non-Banking Options for 2026 tax Season as Paper Checks Have Been Discontinued
The IRS no longer issues paper checks for most federal payments, including tax refunds, as of September 30, 2025. The primary alternatives for receiving funds electronically are direct deposit and prepaid debit cards, with limited exceptions available for those with undue hardship.
Options for Receiving an IRS Refund Electronically
The IRS offers several electronic options for receiving your tax refund, which are faster and more secure than paper checks.
- Direct Deposit to a Bank Account: This is the fastest and most common method. You will need to provide your bank account's routing and account numbers on your tax return. You can deposit your refund into a checking account, savings account, or even certain retirement accounts. You can also split your refund into up to three different accounts using .
- Prepaid Debit Cards: If you do not have a traditional bank account, many reloadable prepaid debit cards have associated routing and account numbers that you can use for direct deposit.
- Digital Wallets: Some mobile apps and digital wallets can accept direct deposits. You should check with your provider to ensure you have the correct routing and account numbers to enter on your tax return.
For those without bank accounts, the IRS recommends exploring free or low-cost account options available through the
FDIC GetBanked initiative or
MyCreditUnion.gov.
Options for Paying the IRS Electronically
Similarly, paper checks are no longer accepted for payments to the IRS. You must use one of the following electronic methods:
- IRS Direct Pay: A free service that allows you to schedule payments directly from your bank account.
- Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS): A free service best for individuals or businesses making large or recurring payments. Enrollment is required.
- Debit or Credit Card/Digital Wallet: You can pay online, by phone, or through the using an authorized third-party payment processor (which may charge a fee).
- Electronic Funds Withdrawal (EFW): This option is available only when you file your tax return electronically using tax software or a tax professional.
If you are facing a hardship that prevents you from using electronic payments, the IRS has stated there will be limited exceptions available, and you may be able to call a dedicated phone line to request an exception.

Issue 13 – Payment Issues for 2026 Tax Season – Can We Still Send in a Check as Payment?
Q1: This is the current Information on IRS.gov - At This Time paper Payment is Still an Option, but How Long That Will Remain is Yet to Be Determined.
For the 2026 tax year, the IRS provides numerous options for paying a tax bill, ranging from electronic methods to traditional mail. The specific methods are largely consistent with prior years, with a strong emphasis on electronic payments.
Electronic Payment Options
The IRS encourages electronic payments as they are fast, secure, and offer immediate confirmation.
- IRS Direct Pay: This free service allows you to pay directly from your checking or savings account without any fees or registration required. You can schedule payments up to 365 days in advance and receive email confirmations.
- Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS): This is a free service, ideal for individuals and businesses making large or frequent payments (e.g. estimated taxes, federal tax deposits). Enrollment is required, and payments can be scheduled up to 365 days in advance.
- Debit or Credit Cards/Digital Wallets: You can pay online, by phone, or via the IRS2Go app through authorized third-party payment processors. Note that these processors charge a convenience fee.
- Electronic Funds Withdrawal (EFW): If you file your taxes electronically (using tax software or a tax professional), you can authorize a direct debit from your bank account as part of the e-filing process.
- IRS Online Account: You can create or sign in to your individual or business to view your balance, payment history, and make payments directly from your bank account.
Other Payment Methods
For those unable or preferring not to pay electronically, other options are available:
- Check or Money Order: You can pay by check or money order through the U.S. mail. For income tax liabilities, you should include the appropriate payment voucher (e.g., Form 1040-V) and ensure you mail it to the correct IRS address.
- Cash: Cash payments can be made at participating retail stores through a service called Official Payments or similar IRS retail partners. A processing fee and a $500 limit per payment apply.
- Same-day wire transfer: You can arrange for a financial institution to initiate a same-day wire payment, though bank fees may apply.
Q2: So, since there are no checks going forward for payment, does that include the 941, 940 and other return payments that get filed? Or is this just for tax returns for right now?
IRS has not made changes to its website concerning payments. How long this will last is unknown.
If You Cannot Pay in Full
If you are unable to pay your full tax bill immediately, the IRS offers options to help you resolve your tax debt:
- Payment Plan (Installment Agreement): Most taxpayers who owe less than $50,000 (individuals) or $25,000 (businesses) can apply for a long-term payment plan (monthly payments for up to 72 months) online through the Online Payment Agreement tool.
- Short-Term Payment Plan: If you owe less than $100,000, you may qualify for a short-term plan that gives you up to 180 additional days to pay the balance in full.
- Offer in Compromise (OIC): If you are experiencing significant financial hardship, you may be able to settle your tax debt for less than the full amount owed. You can use the IRS's Offer in Compromise Pre-Qualifier tool to check your eligibility.
- Temporary Delay of Collection: In cases of financial inability to pay, you can contact the IRS to request a temporary delay of the collection process.
Regardless of the method chosen, it is best to pay as much as you can by the tax deadline to minimize penalties and interest charges.
Q3: Does the refund issue apply to amended returns?
Yes, the 1040X now does have a direct deposit if you are e-filing, but the 1040X on paper does not. IRS has yet to address this issue.
Q4: For amended returns that are for a prior year how do we get those directly deposited when a bank account changed, I have a few people that are waiting on refunds from prior 1040 X.
For amended returns, the ability to use direct deposit depends on the tax year and how the return was filed. If a bank account has changed and a refund is pending, the IRS generally sends a paper check to the last known address on file after a failed direct deposit attempt. There will have to be some exceptions to the rules of no paper checks, but IRS has not been addressed.
Q5: Nebraska now charges a $100 penalty on estimated payments paid via checks over certain thresholds. Think the IRS will do the same?
We have not seen anything on this issue. But we will monitor for changes.
Q6: What about Amish estimates?
Based on the above information, they should still be able to write a check. How long that may be allowed we will have to see.
Q7: This Year, Several Clients Reported That Even After Making an IRS Payment, They Continued to Received Notices Requesting Payment. Has Anyone Else Observed Similar Issue with IRS Payment Processing.
This has been an ongoing IRS issue for the last several years. With limited staff and turning to AI for some processing we expect this to continue into the next year.
Have clients check their bank accounts to see if payment has been processed or check the confirmation of payment if done electronically. If the payment has been processed and they have received a notice, just wait to see if they sent a second notice. The issue generally resolves itself.
If they continue to receive notices, you will need to get a copy of the check front and back and send in the current notice, if received a 3rd notice, to get IRS to correct the issue. The check may have been credited wrong or was not able to be posted.

Issue 14 – Gambling Issues
Q1: This pertains to gambling winnings. Let’s say you have $10,000 in profits and $11,200 in losses. Then 90% of $11,200 would net down to $10,080 which means there would be no taxable gambling gains, correct?
For the basic question that is a Yes, BUT??? You would report the gambling winning on Form 1040 and the 90% gambling losses on Schedule A of $10,800. If you are not able to itemize all the winnings would be taxable.
Q2: With online sports betting and bets that span multiple days/weeks is there an established rule for determining when a "Session" ends?
This is what I was able to find.
There is no single, universally established rule for determining when a "session" ends across all online sports betting platforms and jurisdictions. The definition can vary significantly depending on the context, primarily for regulatory/responsible gaming purposes versus tax reporting.
For Regulatory and Responsible Gaming
In terms of responsible gaming features offered by sportsbooks, a "session" is generally defined by the user's activity:
- Login/Logout Activity: Many platforms define a session as the continuous period an "authorized participant is logged on to an internet sports betting platform". The session ends when the user logs out or is automatically logged out after a period of inactivity.
- Time Limits: Users can often set voluntary "session limits" (timeouts) which automatically end their current session and lock them out for a set period (e.g., 1 to 23 hours) once the time limit is reached.
- Bet Settlement is Not the Deciding Factor: The outcome or settlement of a long-span bet does not typically end a "session" in a technical, platform-enforced sense. The session is focused on the user's active presence on the platform.
For Tax Reporting (IRS Guidance)
For tax purposes in the U.S., the concept of a "session" is handled differently and is still somewhat ambiguous, with no specific statutory definition in the tax code.
- Individual Wagers: Based on current interpretations of IRS guidance, each individual sports wager is often considered a separate taxable event or "session".
- Continuous Activity: For other forms of gambling (like slot machines), a "session method" is used, which involves netting wins and losses during a continuous period of play (e.g., from buy-in to cash-out on a single day).
- Lack of Clarity for Sports Betting: Because sports bets can span days or weeks, applying a "continuous play" model is difficult. Tax experts generally believe that the IRS is likely to interpret each specific sporting contest as its own session for settlement purposes, rather than allowing an entire season of betting to be counted as one long session.
In summary, for online sports betting:
- Platform usage defines a session (login to logout) for responsible gaming limits.
- Each individual game/wager is likely a separate session for tax reporting purposes.
Q3: I had someone approach me. They had purchased Game Materials for a Card Game 30+ years ago that has now become EXTREMELY collectible. Is there any relief from the 28% collectibles tax if what they purchased was not purchased for a collectible purpose??
Are gaming card games considered a Collectible taxable at maximum 28%
To determine whether gaming card games (such as Magic: The Gathering, Pokémon, or similar trading cards) are considered "collectibles" for U.S. federal income tax purposes—and thus subject to the maximum 28% long-term capital gains tax rate—requires a careful analysis of the Internal Revenue Code, Treasury Regulations, and interpretive guidance.
Statutory Definition of "Collectible"
Under Internal Revenue Code section 408(m), a "collectible" is defined as:
- Any work of art,
- Any rug or antique,
- Any metal or gem,
- Any stamp or coin,
- Any alcoholic beverage, or
- Any other tangible personal property specified by the Secretary for purposes of this subsection.
This definition is exclusive, as the statute uses the word "means" rather than "includes," which limits the scope to the listed categories and any additional items the IRS may specify by regulation [1].
Application to Gaming Cards
- Are Gaming Cards a "Work of Art"?
- The term "work of art" is generally interpreted as an item created primarily for its aesthetic value, such as paintings or sculptures.
- While gaming cards may feature artistic designs, their primary purpose is functional—as game pieces, not as art objects. The value of a gaming card is typically based on its utility in gameplay and rarity, not solely on its artistic merit [3].
- Are Gaming Cards "Antiques"?
- An "antique" is generally defined as an object at least 100 years old.
- Most gaming cards, including Magic: The Gathering and Pokémon cards, are not old enough to qualify as antiques. Even older baseball cards may only qualify if they meet the age threshold [3].
- Are Gaming Cards "Other Tangible Personal Property Specified by the Secretary"?
- The IRS has not issued regulations or guidance specifying gaming cards as collectibles under this catch-all provision.
- Proposed regulations from 1984 (never finalized) would have expanded the definition to include musical instruments and historical objects, but not gaming cards [3].
- Are Gaming Cards "Stamps" or "Coins"?
- Gaming cards are not stamps or coins.
- Are Gaming Cards "Metals" or "Gems"?
- Gaming cards are not metals or gems.
IRS and Scholarly Commentary
- Tax articles and scholarly commentary confirm that, absent further IRS guidance, gaming cards are not considered collectibles for tax purposes unless they fall into one of the enumerated categories (work of art, antique, etc.)
- The IRS has not issued any notice, regulation, or other guidance specifically classifying gaming cards as collectibles.
Tax Rate Consequences
- If a gaming card is not a collectible item, long-term capital gains from its sale are taxed at the standard long-term capital gains rates (0%, 15%, or 20%, depending on income)
- If a gaming card were classified as a collectible, long-term capital gains would be taxed at a maximum rate of 28%
Exception: Antique Cards
- If a gaming card is at least 100 years old, it may qualify as an "antique" and thus be a collectible. In that case, gains would be subject to the 28% rate.
Conclusion
Gaming card games (such as Magic: The Gathering, Pokémon, and similar trading cards) are generally not considered collectibles for federal tax purposes and are not subject to the 28% maximum long-term capital gains tax rate, unless the specific card qualifies as a "work of art" or "antique" (i.e., is at least 100 years old). In the absence of further IRS guidance, gains from the sale of such cards are taxed at the standard long-term capital gains rates.
Cited sources:
Additional relevant sources:
Q4: Is there still the "Within the same Session" rule for the losses?
Within the Same Session remains the same.
In Notice 2015-21, the IRS issued a safe-harbor method for electronically tracked slot machine play. Under this notice:
- Gross income from a slot machine wagering transaction is determined on a session basis.
- A session of play begins when a patron places the first wager on a particular type of game and ends when the same patron completes his or her last wager on the same type of game, before the end of the same calendar day (midnight to 11:59 p.m.).
To use this revenue procedure, a US resident taxpayer must write “Revenue Procedure 2015-X” on line 21 of Form 1040, U.S. Individual Tax Return. The “X” is in place because the IRS has not finalized this revenue procedure, which is contained in Notice 2015-21.

Issue 15 – IRS Installment Agreements
Part 6 - Ethics and the OIC.
Q1: If I have a client on an installment agreement from 2024 and they owe again in 2025, do I fill out installment agreement again when I e-file their return for 2025?
The client is pyramiding, and IRS is taking a stand on this issue, usually about the 3rd year or sooner. The 2024 installment agreement will default, and you will need to apply for a new installment agreement for the amounts remining in 2024 and the new amount in 2025. On or about the 3rd year or sooner IRS will no longer allow the client to have an installment agreement if they keep owing unless they pay estimated tax payments while complying with the payment agreed on under the installment agreement.

Issue 16 – Kiddie Tax
Q1: So, do we know if the first $1,000 will be income for kiddie tax calculation purposes?
For most dependent children, the first portion of unearned income is protected by the standard deduction and is not taxed.
Kiddie Tax Application Table (2025 & 2026)
| Unearned Income Amount |
Tax Treatment |
| First $1,350 |
Tax-free (covered by the child's standard deduction) |
| Next $1,350 |
Taxed at the child's own tax rate |
| Amount over $2,700 |
Taxed at the parent's marginal tax rate |
Who is Subject to the Kiddie Tax?
The kiddie tax applies to a child if they are required to file a tax return and meet certain age and support requirements:
- Under age 18 at the end of the tax year.
- Age 18 at the end of the tax year, provided their earned income was not more than half of their support.
- A full-time student at least age 19 and under age 24 at the end of the tax year, provided their earned income was not more than half of their support.
To figure the tax on a child's unearned income over the $2,700 threshold, you must use and attach it to the child's tax return. In certain circumstances, parents can elect to include the child's income on their own tax return using IRS Form 8814.

Issue 17 – Trump Accounts
Q1: If Grandparents gift them money into a CD or Investment account that is considered a Trump Account, that grows from their birth does the $1,000 count as income to calculate their total for Kiddie Tax?
Yes, the interest/earnings from the grandparents' gift into a Trump Account (or any investment) count as the child's unearned income and can trigger the
Kiddie Tax once it exceeds the annual exclusion amount (around $1,350 for 2024/2025), taxed at the child's rate, then the parents' rate for amounts above that.
The $1,000 government contribution doesn't count as income, but the growth on all funds (government + gifted) does, making these accounts subject to Kiddie Tax rules just like UTMA/UGMA accounts.
- What Counts: Interest, dividends, and capital gains from the invested gifted money are "unearned income".
- Kiddie Tax Thresholds (Approximate):
- First portion (e.g., $1,350) is tax-free.
- Next portion (e.g., $1,350) taxed at the child's rate.
- Anything above that is taxed at the parents' higher rate.
- The $1,000 Government Contribution: This initial deposit is not considered taxable income to the child, but the money it earns is subject to Kiddie Tax rules.
- Trump Account Specifics: The key rule for Trump Accounts is that they must be invested in U.S. equity index funds with low fees, and distributions are restricted until age 18.
- Reporting: If the child's unearned income is high enough, you'll file IRS Form 8615 with the child's tax return.
In Simple Terms: Grandparents' gifts add to the pot; that pot grows, and the growth gets taxed under Kiddie Tax rules, but the original $1,000 government money itself does not add to the taxable income count.
Q2: Employer contribution to Trump account: is that the parent's employer or child's employer?
It could be either, but there is a lot we do not know yet and we are awaiting guidance. Once we have more guidance we will be able to address more fully.
Notice 2025-68 seems to address this on page 7 under Section 128 Contributions,
“Section 128 employer contributions.
Section 128 employer contributions paid to a Trump account of an employee or a dependent of an employee are not includible in the employee’s income.
Such contributions are limited to $2,500, subject to cost-of-living adjustments after 2027.
Section 128 employer contributions must be made pursuant to a section 128(c) Trump account contribution program.
Requirements similar to requirements that apply to a section 129 dependent care assistance program (regarding discrimination, eligibility, notification, statements, and benefits) apply to a Trump account contribution program.”
Q3: Will we have to track basis for Trump Accounts?
Yes, you will have to track basis for "Trump Accounts," especially for parental contributions, because it determines the tax-free portion of withdrawals, but government/employer contributions generally don't create basis and are fully taxed on withdrawal, making tracking crucial for differentiating contribution types and ensuring compliance with specific IRS rules for these new accounts.
Why Basis Tracking is Needed
- Tax-Free Withdrawals: Basis is the after-tax money you put in, which is not taxed again when withdrawn.
- Different Contribution Types: Employer/government contributions don't create basis, while parent contributions do, requiring separate tracking.
- Post-Growth Period Rules: After the "growth period" (around age 18), standard IRA rules apply, but basis tracking is still necessary to differentiate between taxed (employer) and untaxed (parent) funds.
Key Tracking Points
- Parent Contributions: You must track these as they form the basis.
- Employer/Govt Contributions: These are generally taxable upon withdrawal and don't add to basis, per IRS Guidance.
- Rollovers: Basis from an initial account carries over to a rollover account.
Trustee Responsibilities
- Financial institutions (trustees) must have systems to track contribution sources and manage basis for compliance with IRS notices.
- Expect more detailed guidance from the and Treasury/Labor Departments on these administrative aspects.
Q4: Are the Trump accounts deductible for federal or state?
Contributions to a Trump account are not deductible at the federal level. As to states, you would have to check with the state in question.

Issue 18 – State of Iowa Issues
Q1: Can you recommend a reliable source that is monitoring and communicating which States that have decoupled from any OBBBA provisions?
The “State-by-State Conformity/Decoupling Tracker” from a firm called OurTaxPartner — not “official law,” but helpful for an early read on states leaning toward decoupling.
Analyses from tax-advisory firms (e.g. alerts from Grant Thornton and EY) — these tend to give details on legislative actions or conformity-date changes for specific states like Michigan, California, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Maryland
Remember this can change and may not be current.
Q2: Is Iowa coupling with the One Big Beautiful Bill?
In some areas, yes, you need to check with the Iowa website and instructions.
Q3: Will Iowa require all tax preparers to have proof of continuing education for 2025?
Yes, butonly the unlicensed tax preparers need to report to the State of Iowa. CPA, s Attorneys and EA's do not need to report to Iowa as the IRS shares that information due to licensing.
Q4: Will Iowa preparers be fined if they do not have continuing education for 2025?
Yes, Iowa imposes penalties on tax preparers who do not meet the state's continuing education requirements. The primary consequence for failing to meet the Continuing Professional Education (CPE) requirements is the inability to practice as a tax return preparer in the state until compliance is met, which may involve additional fees and penalties if they continue to prepare returns.
On May 16, 2019, Governor Kim Reynolds signed “House File 590, an Act relating to tax return preparers, and providing penalties,” into law. Rules related to the tax return preparers regulations can be found in Iowa Administrative rule 701–7.36
This guidance pertains, generally, to the calendar years beginning on or after January 1, 2020, and highlights tax return preparers’ continuing education and preparer tax identification number (PTIN) requirements mandated in House File 590.
Iowa tax return preparers who fail to meet the state's continuing education (CE) requirements may face penalties and are ineligible to prepare tax returns for a fee. The primary consequence is the suspension of their ability to prepare Iowa tax returns, rather than a direct monetary fine for the CE lapse itself.
Iowa Continuing Education Requirements
- Mandatory Hours: A tax return preparer must complete a minimum of 15 hours of CE courses each calendar year.
- Subject Matter: The hours must include at least two hours on professional ethics, with the remainder pertaining to federal or state income tax.
- Provider: All courses must be taken from an IRS-approved provider of continuing education.
- Reporting Deadline: The completed hours for a calendar year must be reported to the Iowa Department of Revenue by February 15 of the following year.
- Record Retention: Preparers must retain records, such as certificates of completion, for a minimum of five years.
Consequences of Non-Compliance
If a preparer fails to complete the required hours by the deadline, they:
- Cannot prepare tax returns: They become ineligible to prepare Iowa income tax returns or claims for refund for the remaining duration of that tax season until they complete and report the required hours.
- Must make up hours: The Department may require the preparer to complete any uncompleted hours and submit the appropriate form before resuming preparation activities.
- Must provide explanation: The preparer must attach a statement to their reporting form explaining that the failure was due to reasonable circumstances and not willful or reckless conduct.
While the failure to meet CE does not carry a direct monetary fine, the state does impose a $50 civil penalty for each tax return prepared without the required Preparer Tax Identification Number (PTIN), up to an aggregate of $25,000 per calendar year.
Note: This applies to individuals who prepare ten or more Iowa tax returns for a fee and are not a enrolled agent, CPA, or attorney licensed in any state.

Issue 19 – Miscellaneous Issues
Q1: Does this also hold open the window to amend for ERC payments received for 6 years since it reduces the expenses from that year technically?
ERC remains the standard 3 years to file an amended return.
Q2: What is the fallout of getting answers from the IRS on correspondence due to the recent government shutdown?
No fallout, just a delay in response.
Q3: Can the Trump administration have the authority to withhold nonresident aliens tax refund for the season 2025 tax season?
Authority is a legal issue which we cannot answer.
Q4: So, is the IRS going to audit with info gained by a less than accurate system?
Possibly, yes – I assume you are asking about AI projects.
Q5: Are taxpayers still responsible for their return, or is it the preparer?
Clients are still the ones responsible. BUT we have our responsibility of Due Diligence in preparing a correct and complete tax return.
Q6: Does the same $19,000 gift tax limit apply to gifts to both US citizens and citizens of foreign countries? Can US citizen give a gift to a foreign citizen?
For 2025, the annual exclusion amount is $19,000 per recipient (indexed each year).
It doesn’t matter whether you give to:
- A U.S. citizen
- A foreign citizen
- Someone living in the U.S. or abroad
- A friend, child, parent, or anyone else
The annual exclusion is per donor → per recipient, with no citizenship restriction.
Special note: Non-citizen spouse vs non-citizen other donee
There is a special, much higher threshold when the donee is your spouse who is not a U.S. citizen. For 2025, the special “spousal exclusion” for a non-citizen spouse is $190,000.
That means you could give up to $190,000 to a non-citizen spouse without triggering gift tax reporting (or reducing your lifetime exemption).
But this special rule does not apply if the recipient is not your spouse. So the $185,000 gift to a foreign individual who is not your spouse would get treated under the standard $19,000 limit.
You can make the gift.
Because it exceeds the 2025 $19,000 annual exclusion.
Q7: I know it's not related but at some point, can we ask others if they are having issues obtaining EINs online? We've been unable to get them online since 11/6. We had to fax 2 requests (done on 11/11) and there was to be a 4-day turnaround, nothing yet a month later. Grassley's office reached out to the IRS during shut down and no one was able to explain what was going on.
Looks like they behind when I review the IRS operating status on IRS.gov here is what has been stated:
Form SS-4, Application for Employer Identification Number
FAX: November 2025. Processed 8 business days after receipt
Paper: October 2025. Processed within 30 days of receipt
It is not noted as to the operating status of the EIN application electronically.
With the 30-day shut down I imagine there were problems. Based on the "noise" online there appears to be a problem of some kind that IRS is not currently acknowledging. Folks trying to use the online EIN application are getting a message like “Apply for an Employer Identification Number (EIN) online is currently unavailable.”
Appears to be spotty
There is no public, authoritative IRS announcement of a broad, -day-long outage of the EIN-application system. The usual status-check tools and main site appear “up.”
But there are significant anecdotal reports from multiple users indicating the EIN application tool often fails or gives error message.
Independent advice sources (e.g. a 2025 article summarizing “EIN Online Application Errors and Solutions”) point out that “technical issues” — often due to high demand or system overload — are common with the online application, and that error codes (e.g. “Error 109”) likely indicate systemic/technical problems, not necessarily user error.
Q8: If filing season does not start until possibly mid-February, do you think the due date will be extended?
I do not see that it will happen. The 4/15 is a statutory due date. The IRS does have the authority to postpone the due date.
Q9: How long did you say that we can file this year, how long will it stay open in December for 1040's?
Midnight December 26
Q10: Do you know the rule why you would have to do the backup withholding?
- Missing or Incorrect Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN):
- Notification from the IRS of an Incorrect TIN:
- Underreported Interest or Dividend Income
- Failure to Certify: The payee fails to certify that they are not subject to backup withholding when required (e.g., when opening a new account or starting a contract job).
Q11: So, if a client gets a letter concerning Backup Withholding from the IRS for this and those people are no longer with them, can they disregard that right? Or, does that mean they have to do that with everyone?
Respond to notice that they are no longer an employee or bank at that bank.
The notice only applies to that employee.
Q12: I have another client that had tips on the 941s and then another person filed the w2s without tips on there and got a message from social security that the 941s didn't match. Do I have to amend every W-2 or what is the best way to fix this?
You only need to amend the W-2’s which were missing tips.
Q13: I have a client that never filed for 2014 through 2017 in a partnership, another tax person that worked with the IRS said to only file the last 6 years as they usually only require the last 6 years and don't file the rest. Well, if the statute of limitations never starts because they never file, what do you do?
We have operated under 6 years rule - even though we know the statute never runs on an unfiled return. There may be other reasons that lead the taxpayer wants to file ALL returns - For example: dad says FILE THEM ALL and I will pay.
Q14: When you are abating penalties and asking for a first-time penalty abatement for payroll or 1040 tax, what is the best way to do that? Do you mail it or do you upload it on the IRS site?
You can generally reply to an IRS notice electronically by using the secure
IRS Document Upload Tool, but only if your specific notice provides a unique access code or link. If the notice does not mention the upload tool, you must reply by mail or fax as instructed on the correspondence itself.
Using the IRS Document Upload Tool
The Document Upload Tool is the primary electronic method for responding to eligible IRS notices.
- Check your notice: Look for a link or QR code and a unique 10-digit alphanumeric access code in your notice. The notice will explicitly state if you can use this tool.
- Gather documentation: Collect all the supporting documents requested by the IRS. Acceptable file formats are JPG, PNG, or PDF, with a maximum size of 15MB per file (up to 40 files total).
- Access the tool: Go to the official IRS Document Upload Tool page or use the specific link provided in your notice.
- Provide information: Enter your access code, name, and identifying number (SSN, ITIN, or EIN). An IRS account is not required to use this specific tool.
- Upload and confirm: Upload your files, including a copy of the notice itself. You will receive an immediate confirmation that your documents have been received.
Alternative Methods
If your notice does not authorize the use of the Document Upload Tool, the IRS does not accept responses via general email or other electronic methods due to security concerns. In this case, you must follow the instructions below:
- Mail: Complete and sign the response form (if included) and mail it with copies of your supporting documents to the address provided in the notice. The notice should include a return envelope.
- Fax: Some notices may provide a fax number as an option.
- Phone: You can call the phone number in the upper right-hand corner of the notice if you have questions or need to dispute the notice informally.
Important: Do not attempt to send sensitive information via regular email. Only use the secure methods specified in the official IRS correspondence.
You can upload documents to the IRS to respond to an IRS notice or letter. Don’t submit tax returns through this tool, we cannot process them.
What you need
- An access code (if provided) or the notice or letter number or title
- The first and last name or business name on the notice or letter
- Social Security, individual taxpayer identification or employer identification number
The IRS Document Upload Tool is a secure, easy and fast way to send information to the IRS. You can use the tool to:
- Upload scans, photos, or digital copies of documents such as JPGs, PNGs or PDFs
- Get confirmation that we received your documents
If you don’t have an access code
You can enter the notice or letter number. Selecting the wrong notice or letter from the drop-down menu could cause delays.
Q15: Do you still get the 100% deduction for meals @ companywide event - ex. Christmas party, summer picnic, etc. - in 2026?
Yes, you can still get a 100% deduction for meals at company-wide recreational events like a Christmas party or summer picnic in 2026.
This exception from the general 50% meal deduction limit (which becomes 0% for some on-premises meals in 2026) is a specific provision in the tax code for recreational, social, or similar activities provided primarily for the benefit of employees.
Q16: Can you provide a citation of the "Roland" case?
In the Resources tab on our website (under Part 2) -
citation
Q17: Need instructions for the 706 for 2025.
Q18: What if you sell a business? Should you complete an SSA 44 form the following year after receiving the gain on sale?
Form SSA-44, the Medicare Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount (IRMAA) Life-Changing Event form, lets you appeal higher Medicare Part B/D premiums if a major event (like retirement, divorce, or spouse's death) significantly reduced your income, allowing for premium recalculation based on current earnings, not older tax returns, to potentially lower your costs. You must provide proof of the event and your new, lower income to the Social Security Administration (SSA). It would be wise if significant income change, but you would have to make sure this issue would qualify as a life changing event.
SSA Form 44 is the Social Security Administration form used to appeal
Medicare premium increases (IRMAA) due to a
Life-Changing Event (LCE), like retirement, divorce, or loss of income-producing property, allowing you to use a more recent tax year's lower income to recalculate your premiums.
Selling a business can be part of an LCE (like retirement or work stoppage), but selling the business alone isn't typically the trigger; the resulting reduction in income is what qualifies you to file Form SSA-44 to potentially lower your Medicare Part B/D costs.
I would have client discuss with Social Security Office once they have an idea of income change.
Q19: Deceased person did not file for 10 years and owes taxes and unfiled returns. Is it worth an estate filing for an OIC if there is the potential for the assets to be liquidated to cover the tax or is it better to just file the taxes and start liquidating assets to cover the back taxes rather than seeking an OIC?
If there are assets to be sold IRS will expect them to be sold to pay the debt. If the total assets are enough to cover the debt after sale – an OIC would not be accepted.
Q20: I only had 1 self-employed helper in 2025. Can I still mail the 1099-NEC?
Yes, you are under the required threshold for e-filing the Forms. The threshold for mandatory electronic filing of Forms 1099 is 10 or more information returns in aggregate for a calendar year.
Q21: OBBBA provides for a tax credit (non-refundable) up to $1700 for a qualified scholarship (state certified) to a qualified org. Seems like 100% pay back for some donors (payers).
What the OBBBA scholarship credit is doing
Under OBBBA, an individual taxpayer may claim a nonrefundable federal income tax credit of up to $1,700 for cash contributions to a state-certified scholarship-granting organization (SGO) that provides K-12 scholarships.
Key mechanics:
- Credit, not a deduction.
- Dollar-for-dollar reduction of federal income tax liability
- Nonrefundable → limited to tax owed
- Per-taxpayer cap: $1,700
- Contribution must be to a state-certified SGO
- No double benefit (no charitable deduction for the same dollars)
When it really does feel like 100% payback
For a taxpayer who:
- Owes at least $1,700 in federal income tax, and
- Make a $1,700 contribution to a qualifying SGO, and
- Is not otherwise limited by AMT or other credit ordering rules,
the math is simple:
| Contribution |
Federal credit |
Net federal cost |
| $1,700 |
$1,700 |
$0 |
In that narrow sense, yes — the donor is fully reimbursed via the tax credit.
This is why people are calling it a “redirect your taxes” provision.
Why it’s not a universal 100% deal.
Several limitations matter in practice:
- Nonrefundable means tax liability matters
If a taxpayer only owes $900 in federal income tax:
- $1,700 contribution
- $900 usable credit
- $800 credit lost
→ Effective cost = $800
- Annual dollar cap
- The credit is capped at $1,700 per taxpayer.
- MFJ ≠ automatically $3,400 unless each spouse separately qualifies under the statute and contribution structure.
- $800 credit lost
You cannot:
- Take the $1,700 credit and
- Deduct the contribution as a charitable gift
So compared to a traditional charitable gift, the benefit is capped and binary.
- State interaction is unpredictable
States may:
- Treat the contribution as non-deductible.
- Disallow any state credit.
- Or decouple entirely.
This affects the net benefit materially depending on where the taxpayer lives.
- Credit ordering / AMT effects
If a taxpayer is:
Subject to AMT, or
Using multiple non-refundable credits, the scholarship credit may be partially or fully crowded out.
Bottom line
✔️ Yes — for some taxpayers, this is effectively a 100% federally reimbursed contribution.
❌ No — it is not universally free money.
🎯 It works best for:
- Middle- and upper-income taxpayers
- With predictable federal tax liability
- Who already supports private K-12 education initiatives.
Q22: Current case: Client is broke, no job nor is anything waiting, owes over $48K, for the past years plus penalties. His sister has provided him with money to live on but will not pay his tax balance. His bank statement shows the $6,000 a month his sister has provided each month. I was thinking of an OIC with doubt of collectability. What do you think?
I tend to lean more for a “Currently Not Collectible” issue (52) which IRS will reevaluate every 2 years. To owe the tax he must have had some skills unless he is now disabled. You could try the OIC but based on what you have provided he has no money to settle the debt. What about assets? (Kristy)